College degree value plummets as woke insanity spikes
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Posted by: Russ Walden ®

03/09/2023, 15:09:56

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College degree value plummets as woke insanity spikes

One of the worst things ever foisted upon Americans was the abysmally stupid Student Loan program.  It had the predictable results:
*  College tuition soared.
*  Professors' salaries followed suit
*  College-issued scholarships died
*  A lot of young people too lazy to get a job got "student loan" instead

Now, they can't pay them back and stupid "Biden" (whoever that is) wants to forgive them and wants us to pay the bill.

Choices have consequences used to be a fairly predictable law of nature.  I guess they're gonna repeal that law.  I suppose next they will repeal the law of gravity.

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Russ








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Great post, Primo! IMO it is part and parcel of Cloward-Piven - bankrupt the government then blame "capitalism".
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

03/11/2023, 00:58:30

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I think it's possible that people underestimate the wickedness of the highest level democrat party planners. It is possible that all of the profligate overspending and seemingly irrationally destructive policies which never fix anything and to the contrary make most matters worse, are not just stupidity - but malice. 

The goal of the Cloward-Piven strategy is to collapse the capitalist system by bankrupting the government, then using mass media et al, to convince the voters that the blame belongs not to those who made the decisions and forced them on the public, but on "capitalism". Then they hope to convince people to vote for radical socialist policies to replace free markets and capitalism generally. 

The whole stinking mess has the added factor that virtually every such disastrous policy leaves an elite upper echelon of wealthy (left or globalist-aligned) powerful elites entrenched in the power structure to cement everything into place permanently - creating a one-party leftist oligarchy to replace the free representative constitutional republic we have had through three centuries. 







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Oh my! Unintended consequences of a government program? I am shocked!
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Posted by: robertb ®

03/11/2023, 00:48:21

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College should be more unnecessary.
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Posted by: Ihavenoname ®

03/10/2023, 01:28:52

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Unless you're going for a challenging STEM degree like engineering. Other endeavours like art, welding, or literature can be self-taught online or learned in trade schools.

Forgiving student debt will just add to the already unfixable +$30 trillion deficit and bankrupt our country to death.

And yeah, choices do have consequences. So do our stolen elections.








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heh One of my brothers favorite things is to deny employment to college boys with delusions of competence who applied to his company.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

03/11/2023, 03:56:12

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My brother ran a fairly successful health-food company that eventually sold out to Whole Foods. The latter treated him badly as COO in the transition but it was largely just business (not personal) and he eventually landed on his feet and did alright nonetheless. 

When he was hiring for them, he often got snotty, narcissistic college grads applying for positions who couldn't believe they got turned down. Often after being rejected, they'd contact him and demand to know why. My brother was civil but blunt - he told them a college degree, even from a fancy school, was not as valuable to him as someone who had a track record of "an ability to do the job that needed doing". It is my brother's firm opinion that his own college degree (UCLA plus some grad school) did little for him but teach him two things - to do good reports and to study forward, i.e., to know what he didn't know and how to figure out how to learn what he needed to learn to get the job done. 

In many cases, the only time my brother would give any weight at all to a college degree was if two candidates for the same open position were equally qualified and one possessed a degree the other did not. Otherwise, he was not impressed with college degrees much at all. 






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I agree! Experience pays. College, not so much.
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Posted by: Ihavenoname ®

03/11/2023, 11:37:49

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Too bad my former high school (and plenty of others across the nation) pushed hard for this expensive education.

I think college is a business itself. The people running those institutions are the ones who profit.

College is not worth it unless you study a worthy degree like engineering. And even that you have to have experience. Unfortunately, with the current job market, it's hard to find one to start with.








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Good point, Sieur. Times change...
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

03/11/2023, 13:13:03

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...and what was true decades ago sometimes does not stand the test of time. 

For example, my nephew was edumacated (sic) at a modest but very good private school in the Valley through high school (because his parents were concerned that he was too sensitive to flourish at a public school in L.A.), then went to college at U.C.L.A. like his parents. He transferred to U.C. Berkeley to their engineering department looking at architecture but that was for geniuses only apparently. My nephew is brighter than most, but not a genius. So, he switched majors early on. BTW, the STEM part of Berkeley has nothing to do with the non-technical side. The engineering, math, medical and hard sciences are a totally separate entities re the curriculum - no kooky Marxist professors, only serious meritocracy rules the roost. He eventually got an engineering degree but then went to law school because he wanted to join up with his mom's law firm (she is one of the partners). Now he is on track to becoming a judge someday if he wants, because he knows so much about engineering/computers, he can do complex patent-law cases, etc. 

Strangely enough, he had a roommate at the dorm who turned out to be a successful actor - Chris Pine (young Kirk from Star Trek movies) was bright enough to go to Berkeley, but then went into acting (probably because it was less work and more-lucrative than his primary focus). 
 
Both my nephew's parents (my brother included) are fairly conservative people who believe in meritocracy and capitalism. They are thankfully good examples of Democrats who will NEVER accept having radical revolutionary socialism rammed down their throats. They will quietly vote for someone else. 

They HATE Xiden with a passion and did not vote for him in the last election. 







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BTW, my nephew said actor Chris Pine is a narcissistic jerk who only got into Berkeley because of connections. .
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

03/11/2023, 21:34:54

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And of course he's a friggin' red-diaper baby from a family of Marxists. 








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Bummer. I like most of his work. Of course if I only watched movies with conservative actors, I would have very little to watch.
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Posted by: robertb ®

03/11/2023, 23:09:24

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BTW, Pure Flix streaming service has nothing BUT conservative stories, many (most?) with a good Christian theme.

People like John Schnider and Kevin Sorbo have a lot of stuff there. Most of the movies have a heart-warming tale, but are of so-so quality.







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I hear ya'...
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

03/12/2023, 12:56:17

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...BTW thanks for the reference to Pure Flix.

To be fair to Pine et al, I think one of the problems for actors with a conscience is that they must often walk a fine line between their personal beliefs and pleasing the people who hire them. It's clear that some actors' best work is pretending to agree with stupid, hateful nonsense in order to avoid being branded as "conservative". It's possible that Pine is not what he appears to be but that he is simply "playing a role" in order to be able to continue to work in an environment that habitually punishes virtue, sanity and authentic adherence to an objective moral code. 

One really is obligated to pick and choose to obtain good material if one wants to enjoy culture not just sub-culture. The pop-kulture is dominated by cacogenic, Satanic, leftist doggerel. 

That's Marxism's strength strategically and its weakness culturally, that it ever seeks to coopt the cacogenic factions of society (those of inferior emotional health). One thing that serves the anti-conservative fanatics is their willingness to embrace the degenerates, sociopaths and cultural derelicts generally to their Daily Cause. 

Those who feel disenfranchised gravitate toward hate/rage (especially irrational, schizoaffective hate) and comprise a powerful force in politics. 






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Hi Russ! Degrees in basket weaving won't get them too far. It's no joke how the young ones feel to superior to have to work.
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Posted by: DeeDee ®

03/09/2023, 20:04:38

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Colleges deceive people into believing that the work done in colleges is the same that is done in the private world of gainful employment.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®

03/11/2023, 13:31:06

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It most decidedly is NOT. 

Degrees are not quite as worthless yet as say the one given to the Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz, but they are getting close... 








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