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Posted by: LateForLunch ®
02/04/2023, 02:18:36
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It is lunacy for any civilized nation to refuse to enforce its own border security - suicidal lunacy.
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Posted by: Ihavenoname ®
02/04/2023, 09:53:23
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And it's such a shame that the CCP was allowed to get this far into world domination. I hate them. They already took over Hong Kong. And now they want Taiwan and Japan. They also abused the Uyghurs, which is pure evil. I feel extremely bad that Americans like you have to put up with this. I will NEVER praise China nor submit to their will under duress. They have done too much damage to the entire world. China is evil. I'm sorry about the bad things they did to the people and countries they hurt (Tibet included), and I stand by this opinion. I hope for something like a Soviet Union collapse in China. I'm fed up with their evil agenda. The CCP needs to go away for good.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®
02/04/2023, 23:26:36
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Not that the people of China are particularly worse than any other population, just that the government is largely ineffective in addressing many of the most egregious problems facing the country (which is a large and increasing problem for us as well).
Xi is doing about all one can to contain/manage the chaotic violence of his national government's structure. It seems to me that the nation functions with systems that are mostly (1) deeply corrupt and (2) highly chaotic (largely unmanageable). So Xi is cast in the role of the King of Chaos.
I wish I could speak with a neighbor about it to get his input (he's an officer in the British Air Force on loan to a U.S. base in the area to share info on thermonuclear weapons systems). As a layman, one concern I have is whether the Chinese are testing something other than the obvious.
Since our scanning radars seem to be concerned mostly with large, faster-moving objects there might be a strategic weakness in difficulty detecting slow, smaller objects like balloons.
I'm not sure I believe the government spokes-holes if they claim the balloons were detected and "effectively neutralized" before entering U.S. airspace. They might be obligated to lie if in fact they were not detected to avoid giving that information to the enemy.
And that's another reason aerial incursions are so concerning - even though we do a lot of business with them, the PRC is still effectively an enemy nation - someone who very obviously might like to see the U.S. wiped out or at the very least, reduced to third-world status (eliminated as a competitor for global domination).
If they could conceivably deploy hundreds of smaller EMP weapons over our territory instead of a few large ones, they might get the same (or worse) destructive effect (which could be catastrophic).
It seems unwise to assume that planning hot war/aggressive first-strike scenarios are not part of any nuclear power's general focus. If they thought they could strike a killer blow with a first-strike, they might be insane (evil) enough to consider trying - even if they ended up killing millions of innocent civilians.
Marxists are notoriously, historically indifferent to the suffering/slaughter of innocent human beings. To them, disagreeing with or opposing them strongly deserves a death sentence.
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Posted by: Ihavenoname ®
02/05/2023, 10:33:02
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Plenty of rumors and speculations I've heard from others suggests otherwise. And yeah, I was referring to the government. However, I maintain that a majority of the population over there are conditioned to support their disgraceful cause. I don't blame the citizens because they are inevitably brainwashed to be supportive of them. I wish China would leave Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Japan alone for good. And us too. The CCP's shameless act of invading other countries like Hong Kong triggers me everytime. The UK was wrong to hand over Hong Kong to China in 1997. Anyways, I don't know whether the balloons are the CCP's or another false-flag event intended to distract the people. Or perhaps, just a bluffing attempt (very unlikely though).
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®
02/05/2023, 22:05:42
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Please note that when referring to collective of a nation's People ( the electorate or the general population as distinct from their government), the first letter is capitalized. When referring to people generically as in "some people" it's generally lowercase.
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Posted by: Ihavenoname ®
02/06/2023, 12:16:21
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But so far, I'll have to go along with the narrative at face value. I think the balloon was shot down at the last minute to let the enemy see the entire territory. It should've been shot down the second it crossed US borders.
And grammatically speaking, I see what you were referring to. Unfortunately, it seems the words China and CCP are used interchangeably. I was NOT referring to the citizens specifically. Let's be clear. I was only referring to the government and their actions. Sorry about that. From now on, I'll only be referring to the government as the CCP. I'll refrain from using the word China unless there's a valid reason to.
I don't blame the citizens because they are forced to be compliant with the CCP's agenda. Same goes with people in North Korea. I sympathize with the citizens who want to escape the horrific dictatorship they endured during their lifetimes.
I hope people in China see the truth and realize what has been done to them and the whole world.
If things do change for the better, they need to stand up and at least start demanding change. Some of them have already tried doing that. But they need more support. And not forgetting to mention the dangers of speaking out against the CCP in China itself.
I don't mean anything racially by the way.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®
02/06/2023, 20:39:17
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That is an old saying which has guided my life for a long time (for whatever that's worth). It's not an absolute of course ("Only a Sith deals in absolutes") but part of a larger doctrine (a system of interrelated beliefs) which includes Ockham's Razor* as an equally-important element. Both are classically conservative concepts. *Ockham's Razor - The idea that the correct explanation for anything is generally the one which requires the least number of assumptions.
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Posted by: Ihavenoname ®
02/10/2023, 00:37:56
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They know how to deceive the public. And they know how to use strongly-worded language to threaten others. No idea if they really mean what they say (such as threatening the US with military force).
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®
02/05/2023, 22:36:06
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I randomly happened to start reading (rereading) a novel by SF classic author Ray Bradbury (Fahrenheit 451, The Martian Chronicals) last week for the first time in decades. I am reading it aloud to my oft-bedridden housemate. The novel, Something Wicked This Way Comes - title taken from a line of Shakespeare (MacBeth) “By the pricking of my thumbs, Something wicked this way comes. Open, locks, Whoever knocks!” We started the book about two weeks ago. Last week we reached a place in the story where a demon in a balloon (Dust Witch) with supernatural powers (much like the ring-wraiths of Tolkien's Lord of the Rings) searches for two boys (to kill them). The demon in the balloon senses thoughts/minds/feelings of those she passes over. Without giving away the plot too much, the balloon is brought down violently. The Satanic circus/carnival with which it is associated, treats the balloon's destruction as the death of a living thing and has a funeral parade for it through town. This is the part of the story I had just finished reading just a day or two before the spy balloon was shot down. What are the odds? Pretty damn high, I'd say. That's a "cosmic concurrence" aka God havin' a laugh with us...
The manifold correlations and random timing were remarkable. RM Forum member Teebone (Barry Hirsh) was the only other member who paid much attention to synchronicities, so this post is partially for my brother from another mother in Heaven lookin' down on us all... heh I know he'll get a kick out of it ('firm believer in God).
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®
02/06/2023, 17:13:56
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It is my personal belief that God is NOT inclined to punish people either individually or en masse - but rather to guide us away from unnecessary suffering caused by sin (ignorance/inequity). That's a classic theological issue which has no absolute answer (at least not for the living).
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Posted by: robertb ®
02/06/2023, 19:01:52
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John Galt realized that sometimes, for something to be saved, the previous version needs to be destroyed. A lot of things I see in the world look pretty much like things being destroyed.
Before we get the second coming of Christ, the anti-christ takes power.
I have purposely NOT studied Revelations. Despite that, a lot of present day seems to make me think on it.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®
02/06/2023, 20:45:15
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The I Ching (ancient Chinese book of wisdom which is all but banned in modern China because it conflicts with "Correct Marxist Thought") says that it's a feature of the natural universe that things reach their peak then then flip into their opposites (in time that which is strong collapses into weakness, that which is full becomes empty, justice devolves into corruption, and so on...)
That is also similar to the Christian precept that, "the last shall be first and the first last".
The history of human beings demonstrates how even catastrophes which seem in retrospect to have been easily foreseeable are virtually never realized until far too late to be avoided. People are smart but the larger the group involved, the less likely to behave with intelligence/effectiveness in any circumstance.
That last one above is a good reason that conservatives are not fans of allowing decisions affecting people directly to be made by bureaucrats thousands of miles away. We prefer local control - the more the better generally.
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Posted by: Ihavenoname ®
02/10/2023, 00:56:53
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I do believe that faith has it's place in our hearts.
And yes, I have more faith in local governments than the current mess we have right now.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®
03/02/2023, 01:16:08
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It may be that mysticism allows you to communicate with something spiritual. The way that you will know it is truly what you have been seeking, is that when you find it you will Know.
Mysticism is the search for Ultimate Truth, above and beyond ordinary, average perception. Also may be called Creative Psychology (per '70's era primer on mysticism/spirituality; "The Master Game" by Dr. Robert S. DeRopp.)
Miracles happen everyday. If a minor miracle is possible, all miracles are possible. That is an irrefutable reality which refutes atheism, IMO.
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Posted by: Ihavenoname ®
03/03/2023, 11:51:51
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Relatives I know are religious. I just don't think I'm quite ready to be a devoted Christian yet.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®
03/04/2023, 02:13:50
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BTW, there are a variety of types of Christians. From Pythagorean mystics, to Gnostics. There is GI Gurdjieff (who thought of himself as a Christian) Madame Blavatsky et al. God doesn't need to be contained in a box. With Christians, it's all about a personal relationship with God, not dogma and dicta so much.
Fundamentalists can be very rigid, but that is their own style. I don't bother to critique the spiritual journeys of others. I am only concerned with my own.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®
02/10/2023, 18:11:05
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The military woke up apparently and nailed the latest Chicom aircraft (likely a smaller, propeller-driven, solar-powered aerial drone this time) with a missile BEFORE it traveled very far into our air space.
It's likely that the reason the government is not talking about why the balloon was not shot down before it had already traversed thousands of miles over US territory is that they DIDN'T SEE IT until then, and couldn't shoot it down over inhabited areas without risk to people on the ground.
It would be giving the Chicoms too much information to reveal when and where it was actually detected (especially if it somehow passed through air defense radars). That information would be valuable to the Chicoms so it can't be revealed. Better to keep them guessing.
It's encouraging that the latest object (spy craft) was apparently much smaller than the first, which suggests that aerial sensors are able to detect even small incursions by objects that don't have a lot of mass.
Anything like an EMP weapon would have to be fairly massive because an EMP requires heavy hardware (it is essentially a thermonuclear weapon). So-called "suitcase nukes" are a myth. They do not exist in the real world. Any such device would have to be bigger than the trunk of a car and densely metallic.
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Posted by: LateForLunch ®
03/02/2023, 00:07:42
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Both Jung and Freud were big on describing human consciousness as having an underlying but very powerful Unconcious in connection with the Conscious. It's fairly complex but the idea is that people everywhere have inclinations to behave in religious ways even atheists, agnostics etc.
An example is the ecoparanoid AGW (Anthropogenic Global Warming) religion, which started as a fanatical political movement using as its basis an unproven (still) speculative conjecture* which acquired the status (driven by fanatical intimidation/seduction,) of irrefutable dicta - now a religion defended as irrationally and sometimes violently as any other so-called "Ultimate Truth" .
*Radiative Carbon Forcing of Atmospheric Black-Body Radiation - IOW, the belief that carbon dioxide/methane in the atmosphere causes significant retention of heat radiation which in turn causes climatic instability in weather. Never been proven scientifically.
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